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Originally Posted by gold_and_red
The vibe around Ravens-Chiefs feels similar to early Colts-Pats. Everyone knew Pats were better but people had to talk up Manning despite his epic playoff chokes. It took a very long time before they started beating the Pats who already had three rings by then. But the key was that Pats got the 1 or 2 playoff seeds regularly so Manning would destruct even before he got to play the Pats. It also helps that we don't have a Pittsburgh in the AFCW while we are looking at 6-0 even before the season starts. It will be interesting to see if Lamar even wins the division consistently.
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I've seen Lamar fans that think he's Michael Jordan due to his electric athleticism (similar to when MJ looked like an absolute freak in the mid to late 1980's) and when he finally breaks through in the playoffs, it will be an avalanche of dominant success.
I think they underestimate Mahomes. If Larry Bird was an obstacle for early Jordan, Bird was also old and broken down by the time Jordan started winning big. Mahomes is a more talented and younger version of Bird. He's extremely skilled with insane vision and hand-eye coordination like Bird was and he also has very similar leadership ability and competitive drive to Bird. But he's got more athleticism in his game. Can he run like Lamar? No, but his scrambling ability is good enough to keep plays alive and torch any defense (no matter how good they are). And Pat is young as hell. He will be in Lamar's way for a long, long time.
I think your Peyton & Brady comparison is a pretty good one. From a physical gift standpoint, Mahomes is a lot more talented than Brady and Lamar is a lot more talented than Manning. The only wild card here is that Lamar has the far younger coach on his side over the long haul. Not sure how long Andy will keep going, and who knows how good the replacement will be when the time comes.