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Old 08-04-2021, 08:31 AM   #54037
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Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're being sincere about this.

The problem with all of this is that NONE OF IT REALLY MATTERS compared to getting the vaccine. The evidence has generally suggested that HCQ has no impact, though there have been SOME studies that show a modest impact. Similar for Zinc. So is it possible that those might help someone who has COVID? It's possible you could find a minor impact, yes. But not much.

Despite the conspiracy theories, though, the reason it's not getting talked about is that there are TONS of things that might help...a little. Being put on a ventilator in a hospital helps...a little. There are other vitamins like C and D that might help...a little. There are literally hundreds of drugs that people have studied that might help...a little.

But do you know why no one is talking about all of those other treatments? It's because people didn't latch on to them like they were going to be some sort of miracle cure and suddenly start putting their fingers in their ears about literally ANYTHING ELSE that would help.

For the sake of argument, though, let's give HCQ the benefit of the doubt and assume it helps the chances of survival by 5%. (That's almost certainly more than it actually helps and, again, most studies have concluded it doesn't do anything at all.) So hooray, it helps!

Meanwhile, we have vaccines available which help by at least 85%, and in most cases it's more like 90-95%, yet you're skeptical of that.

So put yourselves in the shoes of those of us who try to be objective about this. We have vaccines that are AT LEAST 15-20 times as effective at keeping people alive compared to HCQ, yet 1.5 YEARS into this thing people keep bring up ONE of hundreds of treatments that have been studied, and one that has been shown to be only mildly effective at all.

If you're still confused about why no one is talking about it, I would suggest that perhaps your own understanding of the situation is the problem here, not everyone else who has moved on to talking about things that actually make a difference.
They don't seem to have the same focus on HCQ side effects as they do for vaccines


HCQ Side Effects
Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur:

Incidence not known
Anxiety
black, tarry stools
bleeding gums
blindness
blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
blood in the urine or stools
blurred vision or other vision changes
change in how colors look
chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
chills
cold sweats
confusion
cough or hoarseness
dark urine
decreased urination
defective color vision
diarrhea
difficulty seeing at night
dilated neck veins
dizziness or fainting
fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
feeling that others can hear your thoughts
feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
fever
headache
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
increased hunger
joint or muscle pain
large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
loss of hearing
lower back or side pain
nervousness
nightmares
noisy breathing
painful or difficult urination
pale skin
palpitations
pinpoint red spots on the skin
red irritated eyes
red skin lesions, often with a purple center
seizures
severe mood or mental changes
shakiness
slurred speech
sore throat
sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
sticking out of the tongue
stomach pain
swelling of the eye
swelling of the face, fingers, feet, or lower legs
swollen or painful glands
trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
unusual behavior
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual facial expressions
unusual tiredness or weakness
weight gain
yellow eyes or skin
Get emergency help immediately if any of the following symptoms of overdose occur:


Incidence not known
Continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in the ears
darkening of the skin
feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings
hair loss or thinning of the hair
increased sensitivity of the skin to sunlight
irritability
loss of appetite
nausea
redness or other discoloration of the skin
sensation of spinning
severe sunburn
shakiness and unsteady walk
uncontrolled eye movements
unsteadiness, trembling, or other problems with muscle control or coordination
vomiting
weight loss
Other side effects not listed may also occur in some patients. If you notice any other effects, check with your healthcare professional.
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