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Originally Posted by jdubya
How many are in the ICU right now with COPD many of which were smokers? Lets toss those damn smokers.
How many are in the ICU and cardiac Cath lab with CAD (Coronary Artery Disease) secondary to unhealthy diets and lifestyles? Lets toss those lazy stupid bastards out.
How many are in the trauma center from vehicle accidents recovery from hitting a tree while driving drunk or high on recreational drugs? Toss em
How many are taking up beds because of trauma from drunken assaults at parties or bars? Screw them, they should have known better
Motorcycle accidents? We all know motorcycles are more dangerous than cars....toss em.
Elective surges like hip and knee replacements? Probably because they went through life at an unhealthy weight and got premature arthritis.....screw them.
Cancer patients? Likely secondary to unhealthy diets and smoking and drinking too much anyway.
I think you get my point.
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There's no slippery slope
right now.
Every hospital in the country pre-Covid took all of those things you mentioned into consideration when looking at number of beds, staffing, equipment, etc.
It's not about being assholes and figuring out who can be kicked to the curb, it's about supply and demand... and there's only one reason demand outweighs supply right now.
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Originally Posted by jdubya
Where do you draw the line? Who gets to play God?
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Doctors are already playing god.. with zero guidance beyond their best judgment.
End of the day and at 30k feet, it seems like drawing any lines, whatever that means, would be far more beneficial than what's happened the past couple of surges.
I personally don't think that means denying every single unvaccinated patient, but looking at
anything beyond the status quo seems prudent.