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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
How in the **** did they screw that up so bad?
Okay, its an infield fly rule that was never called. The umps screwed up but okay, thats the right call according to the rule book. Batter is out and runners back to 1st and 2nd. How did they end up at 2nd and 3rd?
And if they advanced on their own as was their choice, the guy got tagged out at 2nd base. If its a live ball, why are the umps calling time on their own? If its not a live ball, why are the runners on 2nd and 3rd in scoring position to possibly end the streak on a base hit?
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It was called - umpire at 3b clearly put his arm straight up as Arenado pursued the fly. That was when the IF fly was called (and why the runner at 1b was still declared out).
At that point the rule is that the force is no longer in order and any runner has to be tagged. So when DeJong took the relay at 3b, tagged the bag and fired to 2b, nothing actually happened and that runner is still safe. The throw to 2b was also not a force.
The problem comes with the umpire at 2b. He made an 'out' call at 2b, presumably because he missed the infield fly call. In calling the runner out on the force, he presumed the runner vacated the bag after being called out. That's when the umpire realized he ****ed up and called time.
Since he called time before the tag was put on the runner, he waived off the out (even though the tag should've secured the out). The problem is that his presumption was incorrect - the runner had overrun the bag independent of the out call. Calling time was A) wrongheaded and B) just wrong. It was based on a faulty assumption and frankly even if it wasn't, the umpire doesn't get to just call time mid-play like that.
The runner at 2b should've been out (runner at 3b safe) but the ump at 2b gacked the call and then the crew chief backed his guy.