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Originally Posted by staylor26
What a stupid ****ing narrative. Not everybody gets a second chance. White or black.
Did Hue Jackson not get a second chance? Jim Caldwell? Herm Edwards?
How many second chances did Marvin Lewis get with the Bengals when he should’ve been fired?
Mike Tomlin might have the longest leash in the NFL. Guy hasn’t won shit in quite some time and his seat isn’t even a little warm.
Lovie Smith got almost a decade with the Bears despite very little to show for it.
Raheem Morris, Leslie Frazier, Brian Flores, Todd Bowles etc. were getting multiple interviews despite unsuccessful stints at HC. Just because they haven’t been hired yet doesn’t mean they will never get a second chance.
Mike McCarthy has a ****ing SB ring. Of course he got a second chance. How many of those black HCs that didn’t get one have a SB ring?
Josh McDaniels waited almost a decade before getting another chance.
Every one of those guys you listed is a QB coach which we’ve already established is more likely to be white. The modern NFL has a thing for QB coaches. They’re mostly white, like QBs are mostly white. This isn’t rocket science, or racism.
Also, why can’t any of you explain how there’s been quite a few new black GMs over the last couple years, and none of them have chosen a black HC? Are they racist? All of these great black coaches not getting an opportunity, yet they don’t hire them? What’s up with that? We know for a fact that Poles and Kwesi are making those decisions themselves.
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First, for the record, I don’t think anyone on cp at least thinks there’s anything racist going on. But there is an obvious gap. When you have only 1 black head coach out of 32 which is undoubtedly abnormal given league demographics.
And while you can clearly point to exceptions to the rule, on the whole the opportunities tend to lean one direction. Almost every hiring cycle there are a few wtf coaching hires. Whether it’s hiring a TE coach, a guy with no coaching experience, or hiring a retread… of course there are exceptions to the rule but these opportunities rarely go to black coaches. So understandably people look at someone like EB and think to themselves… he may not be Andy Reid, but someone actually believed he’d be worse than Adam gase or joe judge? Is anyone looking at this string of HC hires so far and thinking any team has really knocked it out of the park? Is Jim Caldwells track record actually worse than Dan Quinn who is an it guy right now?
Without a doubt there is a hesitation to move black coaches up the ranks. It’s not easy to figure out why that is or how you even solve for it. Except to acknowledge that it’s not natural.