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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

brian is full of shit

Possibly but Hue Jackson definitely is and he made a fool of himself getting involved in this.

I edited some of the non important stuff out, its from The Athletic.

Lloyd: Hue Jackson’s complaints against Browns resemble his coaching career; they both fall short

Hue Jackson brought a crowbar and bullhorn to a conversation he wasn’t invited to and yet again tried convincing the world how badly he was wronged by the Cleveland Browns.

This time, he insisted, he has the receipts. He can help Brian Flores’ case. But given the opportunity to show his hand Wednesday, Jackson instead revealed a 2-7 offsuit.

As with most of the rest of his career, Hue Jackson is bluffing....


“Jimmy Haslam was happy while we kept losing,” Jackson tweeted.

Kimberly Diemert, executive director of the Hue Jackson Foundation, went even further.

“We have records that will help your case,” Diemert tweeted.

This isn’t the first time Jackson has tried to conjure an audience that would listen, but this time the Browns responded.

“The recent comments by Hue Jackson and his representatives relating to his tenure as our head coach are completely fabricated,” a team spokesperson said in a statement. “Any accusation that any member of our organization was incentivized to deliberately lose games is categorically false.”

Jackson went on ESPN’s SportsCenter and was given a national platform Wednesday night to reveal his evidence. What was his proof? Was he ordered to lose games? Was he paid to lose games?

“We were paid for — you’re going to see it as losing — but the way the team was built, there was no chance to win at a high level,” Jackson said.

But … that’s not what this is about. That’s not the same as what Flores is alleging. Not even close. Jackson is describing the same tanking that goes on in every sport across the land. He has been screaming the same talking points into the clouds since the Browns fired him in 2018.

Jackson, 56, insisted Wednesday he didn’t know what he was getting into when, in fact, he knew exactly what he was getting into because the Browns laid it out for him. There were no surprises or trap doors. There was no expectation to win during his first two years in charge. He knew that when he signed his four-year contract. A source with knowledge of the deal said there were no bonuses tied to winning — or losing — during the first two years.

There were most certainly bonuses tied to winning in the third and fourth years, according to the source with knowledge of Jackson’s deal.

“I have documentation that I think any coach would kind of cringe at if he saw it because it talked about things that had nothing to do with winning — aggregate rankings, being the youngest team, having so many draft picks,” Jackson said. “None of those things are what lead to winning.”
They lead to clear expectations of what is to come. No one was hiding from Jackson the fact the team wasn’t going to be very good in the first two years of the four-year plan. A flood of losses was coming. Everyone knew it. The leap was expected in the third year. When Jackson complained the Browns were destroying his career following a 1-31 record in his first two seasons, Haslam acquiesced and tacked a fifth year onto the back end of the deal, according to the source.

This wasn’t a team setting up a Black coach to fail, as Jackson is trying to convince us to believe. This was a team giving an extra year of security to a coach who hadn’t earned it. The Browns never went public with the extension because of how outrageous it would’ve appeared given his record.

He was finally fired after a 2-5-1 start to the 2018 season in his pivotal third year, departing with a 3-36-1 record. He was replaced by Gregg Williams, who went 5-3 over the second half of the season with the same roster. That’s where Jackson loses all credibility. Williams won more games in the second half of the 2018 season than Jackson won during his 2 1/2 years in charge.

Hue should have kept his yap shut but people love to jump in on this stuff.