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And the thing about Clay is he's absolutely shameless and doesn't give a shit, which makes his obnoxiousness and trolling completely transparent. People beating their heads against the wall when he was clamoring for attention in this thread or people who seriously really hate him don't really seem to understand that about him... sure, it can still be obnoxious, but comparing him to this dense tryhard obnoxious crap is just about the Dunning Krugerist thing ever.
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