Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020
You site 1 list as evidence for what the industry sees? Fangraphs prospects list was/is developed by guys that have actually taken jobs in front offices before/currently and they had Gorman as a top 58 or so prospect to start the year. That's about where Liberatore is right now. If Gorman was still a prospect he would be behind Walker and Herrera on their list. Winn is 4th now but would be 5th, again if Gorman was still a prospect.
So no, I did not underrate where they would stand in the Cardinals pecking order.
Even if they were 2 and 4 as you claim, you still aren't getting Soto without giving up your best. No team is.
|
Fangraphs is notoriously slow to update its list. The list is supposed to be fluid. That's the way it operates in the real-life industry. Milwaukee's Jackson Chourio is now a top 20 prospect. You won't find him on any preseason list.
With Kiley McDaniel and Kevin Goldstein moving on, main Fangraphs prospect evaluator Eric Longenhagen has minor league experience with Lehigh Valley, not with a MLB scouting department. He's great at what he does, I will admit that.
Baseball America has had John Manuel, Chris Kline and Josh Boyd move onto baseball ops. Kline and Boyd are scouting directors for two teams.
I should have mentioned this earlier, the Cardinals ARE the fit for the Nationals. There might not be another franchise that can match their talent that's in on Soto. Maybe the Dodgers but it's not like there's a can't miss headliner with Cartaya, Pages, Miller and Vargas. Cartaya is the closest thing and he comes with risk by nature of being a catcher.
Cardinals submit without Walker in a text. Rizzo replies "We're going to need Walker to do this." Cardinals counter with Walker and one of Yepez/Burleson/Liberatore not included in some proposal. It's not that big of a deal as you make it because the Nationals know the Cardinals have the goods.