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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Do we once AGAIN need to clarify my position in re: Moore?
The part where I said the guy is likely to have a very good career? Like, 6-8 years and 4-5K yards with 400ish catches? Or where I comped him to Sterling Shepard with a shot at being Golden Tate?
King is 100% right - your issue is that you see any real time discussion or {gasp} criticism of a player as some wholesale dismissal of anything he'll ever be. And there were people trying to call this kid the best WR prospect in the !@#$ing draft and when I have the audacity to point out he wasn't among the first dozen taken for a reason, you feel honor bound to paint me into some corner. And I'm the one that needs to dial it down a peg? Get the **** outta here with that.
I'm begging the Chiefs to start the guy because I think this WR room is ass. And is that a good place to find ourselves? Oh hell no - asking a guy with obvious flaws to be the 'savior' of a contender as a rookie. But shit, if I bother to point out that Brett Veach assembled this WR room and put us in this position, that'll put your goddamn panties in a twist as well.
You will not allow criticism, no matter how tepid or how measured, of ANYONE associated with the Chiefs until such time as it becomes such an overwhelming consensus that you can either ride the wave or be swept away by it. Even when the criticism is literally nothing more than a snapshot analysis - which is almost exclusively what Detox and I have offered of Moore to this point while simultaneously voicing our hope and belief that there's more there to offer.
Its ludicrous. But keep on patting yourself on the back for being 'open-minded' I guess. I just don't understand why you feel as though you have some unassailable high ground here when anyone deigns to say "hey, this looks like a slot WR" or "man, he must be more raw than we thought if he's not seeing the field yet..." when there has been exactly ZERO evidence actually presented to this point by anyone to disprove either position.
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This seems like a far cry from your Moore takes going back to the draft.
You said guys like Moore get drafted in the 3rd every year, and he was essentially a reach in the 2nd. You called him a WR3 at best, and you seemed to think it was more likely than not that he wouldn't even be that.
Seems like your opinion on him has changed significantly. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that's because of the flashes he shaped in TC and preseason?
I don't necessarily think that's a bad/harsh take at all, but it's clearly different from your takes before the draft.