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Old 10-04-2022, 03:55 PM   #202
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus View Post
It is a small sample size and I think that strengthens my argument.

I had been arguing with chiefzilla, among others, about opportunity in the NFL. I believe Kelce is a good example, and the small sample size bears it out (is it bears it out or bares it out?). Kelce circa 2015, 2016 vs Kelce circa 2019, 2020. I don't believe there was an appreciable difference. The major difference between them is opportunity.

2015 Kelce was saddled with a gaping vagina QB who refused to let his nuts hang. We played not to lose and it resulted in losses against the big dawgs in the postseason.

Then, in comes our chocolatey-dicked biracial angel and BAM. All of a sudden we're winning 3/4ths of the postseason games we play, which creates more opportunities for Kelce, who hasn't changed a ton, to shine.
I don't either.

That's precisely my point - I think he was an ass-kicker in the post-season BEFORE Patrick Mahomes came along. He'd developed into a horse even with Alex Smith under center. He hadn't risen to national prominence yet because we were always that team that showed up to be the bit players in someone else's story.

But he never failed to do his part. He never failed to raise his level of play.

I think that's a lot harder argument to make in re: Tony Gonzalez. You can attempt to say that he didn't get the number of opportunities - sure. But you can't say he met/exceeded his ordinary standard when he DID get his shot.
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