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Originally Posted by ThaVirus
Umm, did you miss the part where Butker got hurt? lol Come tf on, bro, you are being ridiculous. We tried shutting him down and lost two games in large part to replacement kickers blowing it.
That fumble was 100% on Fortson. Any player has to know that you gain absolutely nothing by advancing in that situation.
Do we blame Andy any time Pat throws a boneheaded INT? Do we blame Spagnuolo when Chris Jones does some stupid shit? Because I specifically remember you saying there's nothing Spags could say to Jones after he blew that Indy game with his taunting. "He's a professional and he'll do better next time". Well that's what I expect from Fortson.
I would expect them to be ready for a surprise play, but again, there is no tendency shown for surprise onside kicks. The guys up front need to be ready for that on every kickoff. They weren't this time and that sort of thing will happen sometimes. Toub's been here how long? That's the first time it's happened as far as I can remember.
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When it's bad situational football? Yeah - especially when PM was younger and that stuff was being coached into him.
And people blamed Bob Sutton for every thin red dime worth of stupid shit Chris Jones pulled. As for the taunting foul - that's emotion and maturity; I'm not sure how you 'coach' that out of him. Or that you'd even want to - you take the good with the bad with that sort of thing.
Fortson returning a ball he should've fallen on is simple preparation. It's a guy who was on a return team who simply didn't have the necessary wherewithal to do something that damn sure SHOULD'VE been brained into him.
They're completely different scenarios.
And when it comes so soon after another kickoff coverage gaffe, at a point it becomes a trend.
As for Butker - well I don't mind giving him some rope there because you don't really want to be teaching Butker to play the slice. That's how bad habits happen. But while it's fair to say "he's hurt" - it's also fair to say that this isn't the first time that Butker has fallen into a mechanical funk. And it's up to Toub to guide him out of those.