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Originally Posted by Lzen
Yeah but how many times has he choked in the first or second round? Or better yet, how many times did he miss the NCAA Tourney?
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He's missed the tournament twice since he's been at Kentucky. Realistically, in terms of "choke" relative to the team's performance during the season + talent, I'd say twice since he's been there (2015 vs Wisconsin, 2022 vs St. Peter's).
2009-2010 they had a suspect three shooting team and shot poorly from 3 vs WVU in Cal's first year.
2010-2011 they were a 4 seed that lost to a 3 seed UConn that won the title with a hot Kemba.
2012-2013 was NIT year (that's on Cal).
2013-2014 they were a 7 seed that beat an undefeated Wichita St. before losing in the title game to an 8 seed UConn.
2014-2015 greatest choke job Cal's had at UK.
2015-2016 they lost as a 4 seed to a 5 seed Indiana that a really good center (Thomas Bryant) when that team didn't have a good center.
2016-2017 they went through a gauntlet before losing as a 2 seed to a 1 seed that won on a near buzzer beater in the Elite 8.
2017-2018 wasn't very talented but lost in the Sweet 16 in a weak region to a mid-Kansas St. (I didn't have high hope going into the season and they met my expectations.
2018-2019 they lost to an Auburn team in OT in the Elite 8 that was on fire that beat UNC and Kansas along the way.
2020-2021 was a terrible team and that's on Cal.
2021-2022 was a choke job vs St. Peter's.
Since he's been at Kentucky:
1 title
4 Final Fours
7 Elite 8s
8 Sweet 16s
Self for reference during that time period (2009-2010 season to now):
1 title
3 Final Fours
6 Elite 8s
7 Elite 8s
They've only not made it out of the first weekend since he's been at Kentucky 4 times since he's been there in a completed season (2013, 2016, 2021, 2022). That's happened to Self 5 times in that same time period for reference. The idea that either of these coaches are chokers is bullshit.