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Originally Posted by -King-
I get it. But it's not like MVS really gives us those big plays like Gabriel does so the trade off isn't really there. Gabriel has more touchdowns in his 3 yr career than MVS does in his 6 year career.
He's giving us what Chark gives Detroit except Chark did it with 250 less snaps and a worse QB and coach.
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But he does, though.
Gabriel Davis on throws of more than 20 yards:
22 targets, 9 receptions for 351 yards; 15.95 yds/route
MVS on throws of more than 20 yards:
19 targets, 10 receptions for 322 yards; 16.95 yds/route
Gabriel Davis on routes of 10-19 yards:
37 targets, 23 receptions for 365 yards; 9.86 yds/route
MVS on throws of 10-19 yards:
22 targets, 12 receptions for 213 yards; 9.68 Y/RR
Strictly as a deep ball receiver there have been few, if any, more efficient players in the NFL this year. And that's with Mahomes just flat-ass missing him and ADMITTING as such on at least 4 occasions that I can think of this year.
As a mid-range receiver they're damn near identical on a per snap basis.
From 20+, MVS is a little better. From 10-19, Davis is a little better. They've been EXTREMELY similar when you work from 10 yards out. And that's with Davis having a lot more experience with his QB while Mahomes is very clearly still working things out with MVS.
Davis has 5 drops on 83 targets; MVS has 5 drops on 70. So go ahead and 'credit' MVS with one more drop than Davis but recognize that MVS has 3 of his drops on short passes (2 for Davis) while Davis has 3 of his drops on intermediate balls (vs 2 for MVS) so his drops likely hurt more.
I'm not saying MVS is some kind of superstar out there - but I really don't think he's getting enough credit. I mean if when you start to stack the two guys up side by side, they've been VERY similar this year. And they've done it in extremely similar ways.
I do think, as you comb through the numbers a little, you can reasonably conclude that Davis has been better. But its only by a
little bit. I mean at MOST 10% better. And when you start to consider how many times Mahomes just hasn't had MVS dialed in, I think there's a TON of room for improvement there that really has nothing to do with Marquez.
I really do think I'd prefer roll with Toney/MVS/Hardman/Moore than JJSS/Toney/Moore/Rookie. Screw it - at this point I don't even
think I prefer that route - I
know I do.