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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
But he does, though.
Gabriel Davis on throws of more than 20 yards:
22 targets, 9 receptions for 351 yards; 15.95 yds/route
MVS on throws of more than 20 yards:
19 targets, 10 receptions for 322 yards; 16.95 yds/route
Gabriel Davis on routes of 10-19 yards:
37 targets, 23 receptions for 365 yards; 9.86 yds/route
MVS on throws of 10-19 yards:
22 targets, 12 receptions for 213 yards; 9.68 Y/RR
Strictly as a deep ball receiver there have been few, if any, more efficient players in the NFL this year. And that's with Mahomes just flat-ass missing him and ADMITTING as such on at least 4 occasions that I can think of this year.
As a mid-range receiver they're damn near identical on a per snap basis.
From 20+, MVS is a little better. From 10-19, Davis is a little better. They've been EXTREMELY similar when you work from 10 yards out. And that's with Davis having a lot more experience with his QB while Mahomes is very clearly still working things out with MVS.
Davis has 5 drops on 83 targets; MVS has 5 drops on 70. So go ahead and 'credit' MVS with one more drop than Davis but recognize that MVS has 3 of his drops on short passes (2 for Davis) while Davis has 3 of his drops on intermediate balls (vs 2 for MVS) so his drops likely hurt more.
I'm not saying MVS is some kind of superstar out there - but I really don't think he's getting enough credit. I mean if when you start to stack the two guys up side by side, they've been VERY similar this year. And they've done it in extremely similar ways.
I do think, as you comb through the numbers a little, you can reasonably conclude that Davis has been better. But its only by a little bit. I mean at MOST 10% better. And when you start to consider how many times Mahomes just hasn't had MVS dialed in, I think there's a TON of room for improvement there that really has nothing to do with Marquez.
I really do think I'd prefer roll with Toney/MVS/Hardman/Moore than JJSS/Toney/Moore/Rookie. Screw it - at this point I don't even think I prefer that route - I know I do.
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Eh...130 yards and 5 more touchdowns in 1 less game is a pretty huge difference and I'd think 100 people out of 100 would say Gabriel is a much better player.
And he's also been overthrown on balls too. Not to the degree of MVS because he has better connection with his, but you can't use MVS being overthrown but not count Davis being overthrown too.