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Old 01-13-2023, 10:52 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 View Post
lol, what? What happened to "he's running full speed downfield; you can't expect him to stop and come back for the ball?" Come on now, bud.

Yeah, the angle I remember was from behind the LoS, kind of zoomed in a bit; you get a pretty good look at Mahomes and his stance. He's definitely pointed slightly to his left, and you can see pretty clearly when he turns his head back to the right and recognizes that Skyy is wide open; he never resets and just tries to flick it out there, even though there's no pressure on him.

But when your stance is pointed to the left and you try to throw to the right, your hips are kind of locked in place; you can't really follow through with the throw. You maybe could get some torque maybe if you lift off your right foot, but he doesn't do that. He's basically flat-footed there.

I think he just got in a hurry. But regardless it's a pretty poor throw, well behind Skyy. And just by resetting his feet that's a really easy throw for big yardage.
But Moore wasn't running downfield - he was running a crosser. Instead of leading him, he threw it into his body.

And yes, you and I reached the same conclusion on the 'why' of it, just for slightly different reasons. I think he mis-read the safety. Maybe he got impatient and didn't wait another half a heartbeat for the safety to commit and just guessed at what he was going to do. But in the end my conclusion was that it wasn't mechanics that led to the throw but rather just simple ol' bad aim.

EDIT: Here's the entire exchange with O.City (starts a little before this)

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...5#post16706065

And where we pretty much completely align:

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Look how locked up his hips are on that throw; the rear angle shows it perfectly. He's 'hopping' with that back foot because he's trying to bring his hips 'around' that front leg. He simply can't drive that ball to his left because he aimed his front foot to the right. So the only way to get that throw left is to lift his back foot and allow his hips to sort of free spin over his front leg. Effectively he's using his plant leg as a last ditch effort to throw his shoulders to the left and drive the ball over there. If he keeps that back foot planted, there's just no chance to get his hips around and get that ball where it should've been (that would've yielded the late off scenario and a potential interception). The 'skip' throwing mechanics were was a reaction to bad initial aim and his body attempting to compensate for it, IMO.

And if I'm guessing why Mahomes would've assumed Moore would sit there - he just mis-read the safety. Or thought he was being baited so his initial plan was to try to throw it short into a zone for a 1st down without putting a hospital ball out there. He realized as he was throwing it that the S had sold out and was trying to 'fix the glitch'.
But ultimately it was still a ball Moore should've caught.
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