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I'm still trying to figure out what your point is exactly. You're still trying to use players that other teams developed as a basis for your argument, which is extremely flawed.
I mean, did you forget Remmers started games for Carolina then signed a $30m deal and started in Minnesota? Garbage bin? Nah, end of career veteran stopgap but not some garbage bin raid that Heck coached up. Come on man.
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