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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
I get what you're saying, but is it really?
Depends on your definition of "true ace" I think. I can't think of a true ace drafted/developed by the following teams in that time span:
Cardinals
Cubs
Astros
Phillies
Blue Jays
Diamondbacks
Orioles
Red Sox
White Sox
Reds
Rockies
Angels (unless you count Ohtani)
Twins
Mets
Yankees
Padres
Rangers
That's more than half of MLB teams.
That standard is too high to judge a team on. What's better, is just ... how many viable MLB starters are you pumping out?
An area where the Royals are clearly deficient.
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I guess I don't know what the technical definition of ace or somewhere close but there are a few missing here. Degrom(Mets) Sale(white sox) Hammels(Phillies) Gallen(drafted by cards but traded in minors to dbacks) John Lester (Red Sox, 4 seasons with an era under 3) Dallas keuchel( Astros, cy young and 3 seasons under 3 era) Cueto(Reds) peavy(padres).
Regardless your last point still stands. It's actually pretty depressing to think about who is the second best starter we have drafted and developed. The runs in the playoffs had basically no starters except for Ventura, who we didn't draft but close enough, but even he wasn't actually as good as people remember. Lots of potential and some great outings but the world series win year he had an era over 4 and did the same the following year. If you take out Duffy's one amazing year he has a career era well over 4. I'm not sure we have had a pitcher who has posted 4 seasons with an era under 4 with the royals since greinke which is depressing.