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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe
No, my point was Payton wasn’t in an easy as cake division for 16 years.
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Sure about that?
Let's look at his first 5 years in the AFC South compared to Mahomes first 5 years in the AFC West:
2006-2010 Saints:
Divisional opponents (Falcons, Panthers, Bucs) overall record for 5 years: 114-126. Second place team finished 8-8, 7-9, 11-5, 9-7, 11-5 from 2006-2010. Overall winning % of divisional opponents over that 5 year span? 0.475
2018-2022 Chiefs:
Divisional opponents (Chargers, Raiders, Broncos) overall record for 5 years: 110-136. Second place team finished 12-4, 7-9, 8-8, 10-7, 10-7 from 2018-2022. Overall winning % of divisional opponents over that 5 year span? 0.447
Looks pretty similar, huh?
There's one outlier in these numbers for these 10 seasons. The 2008 season where the NFC South went 32-16. All 4 teams went .500 or better. If you take away that one season, the overall winning % for the Saints divisional opponents over the other 4 years is 0.427.
So, outside of the 2008 season, Sean Payton actually coached in a weaker division than Mahomes has played in during his 5 NFL seasons as a starter. And, out of that, Sean Payton managed one Super Bowl appearance and victory. Mahomes has managed 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 victories.
Might want to re-think your bullshit narrative from above, huh?