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Holy shit you're ****ing reeruned.
Belichick would've competlely wasted our resources from the Tyreek trade. He traded out of the pick that got us McDuffie so he could get a ****ing G with a day 3 grade 
Of course you'd still have Andy/Mahomes, but I said the same level of success that we've had. If you think Andy and Pat are the sole reason we've had THIS level of succes, you're completely ignoring Veach's contributions. |
Not sure why the Belichick thing needs to be addressed further. He had
greater success than what we've enjoyed these last several years and he did it TWICE.
He is legitimately the last one you should be arguing with me about given the fact that he's actually achieved heights greater than what we're discussing.
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Baalke took Travon Walker over the consensus and very obvious best player in the draft in Hutchinson. Considering the Jags pass rush is a huge issue, that's a firable offense. That team hasn't gotten any better since last season. What a joke.
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We going to start firing dudes for one bad draft pick? If that's the case then Veach would have been canned after 2018 because that entire draft was booty cheeks.
They have regressed thus far but it isn't due to Baalke. He added Ridley, who looks great and now they're loaded on offense. The defense should be ascending as they've got some good, young pieces.
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Jerry Jones is a ****ing owner. Do you honestly believe it's him finding guys like Tony Pollard? that's also ignoring the fact that the Cowboys haven't won anything of significance in a very long time.
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Ummmm, yes..? Lol. Is he not the Owner/President/GM?
Dude consistently built some of the most talented teams of the 90s, 00s, and 10s. Here we are in the 20s and their roster is once again stacked.
Reid-Mahomes would put that team over the hump.
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Lynch and the 49ers like the Jags had multiple years with top 5 picks. If you simply take Nick Bosa off that team, they're nowhere near as good. Veach has never draft earlier than like 29
That's without mentioning arguably the worst trade up for a QB in NFL history.
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This is your only decent argument, but Lynch has done an incredible job outside of the top of the 1st round so it takes a lot of bite out of what you're saying. Kittle, Aiyuk, CMC, Greenlaw, Fred Warner, Deebo, Trent Williams, Charvarius Ward, Jimmy G, and Hufanga were all picked outside of the top 15 or key FA acquisitions/trades.
That's not even including Purdy who may end up being the best and most important pick of all in the 7th round.
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You're competlely ignorant as to just how good Veach is if you think we have the same level of success with any of these guys. Where exactly do you think he ranks among the GMs of the NFL?
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I'd think you could put Veach anywhere in the top 3 and I wouldn't fight about it. I'd lean toward throwing Roseman in the #1 spot though.