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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
Oh, come on. If Lamar Jackson had accomplished in six seasons what Mahomes has, you'd be just as confident in his abilities.
The FLOOR for a Mahomes-QB'd season is losing in OT of the AFC championship game.
Chiefs fans have seen Mahomes elevate his own roster over more "complete" teams with less at QB time and again. They have seen him win healthy, they have seen him win injured. They have seen him win lighting up opposing teams with the passing game. They have seen him lighting up opposing teams with clutch play after clutch.
They won the Super Bowl against two teams that were "stacked" and more complete and better than KC, with indomitable defenses that were purported to be capable of shutting Mahomes down. He faced one of them with a badly sprained ankle that he re-sprained in the first half.
So yeah, of course, on their OWN message board, Chiefs fans are confident in his ability and point to him as a reason they are confident. He has performed miracles on the football field for this team time and again, enough that if we were talking Catholisiscm here, you could apply for his Sainthood many times over.
The Ravens are at home and have a better all-around roster. They have a star QB, and a strong defense. Most of the Chiefs fans here and most of the discussion in this thread before Ravens fans dipped their toes in was about how this was a tough game and a coin flip, with many even saying the odds are with the Ravens.
And I'll leave with again sharing with you the history of this BB in the Mahomes era:
1. Chiefs make AFC title game or Super Bowl
2. Opposing fans start showing up
3. Opposing fans start out nice, then get surprised the Chiefs fans here are supremely confident
4. Opposing fans start chirping about whatever their perceived edge is (19 Titans: Derrick Henry + beating KC in regular season; 19 49ers: Stacked roster, #1 defense; 20 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, hot team; 21 Bills: stacked roster, alien QB, #1 defense, revenge; 22 Bengals: stacked offense, defense that has Reid/Mahomes' number, alien QB with edge on Mahomes, Mahomes is hurt; 22 Eagles: stacked offense, alien QB, #1 defense)
5. Chiefs fans respond by saying "oh, this again." and point to the history of knocking off these teams with the perceived edge
6. Chiefs go win, anyway.
It's old hat.
Final statement: Of opposing fans who have found their way here and gone through this cycle, you have the potential to stick around and have fun no matter the outcome. That's rare.
Now go chug some antifreeze and throw yourself into a flaming dumpster filled with AIDS needles.
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Salute!
I get it. Every other franchise is jealous that you have Mahomes. All of them/us. He's him. Anyone who doesn't recognize that doesn't know what they're looking at. And I respect that Chiefs fans appreciate this moment for what it is. The comment of mine you quoted was less serious than it was breaking balls.
That said, I do think people here, elsewhere, and in the media focus too much on quaterbacks at the expense of anything else. It's the most important position in sports, but there are other dynamics at play that matter. If they didn't, then the Ravens wouldn't have won a Super Bowl with Dilfer and Flacco. If people here genuinely hold the belief that "we have Mahomes and you don't so nothing else matters," then I do disagree. It just stunts substantive conversation to collapse everything into QB A > QB B.
So I guess I do get triggered when people frame every single topic as "Mahomes vs. Lamar" when it's "Chiefs vs. Ravens." Especially when the "Mahomes vs. Lamar" turns into acting like the only player to ever have won a Heisman and two MVPs is some fraudulent also ran simply because he's not Patrick Mahomes.
Anyway, appreciate your explanations. I would like to stick around. This place is pretty unique. I just need to ignore the negative reputation comments telling me "Hope the entire female side of your family gets ass raped tonight." Onward and upward!