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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive
Sure, I can accept that having an elite/HOF category QB makes winning a SB easier in the absence of a historically great team otherwise. But the thing is that Lamar is in the elite/HOF category. Two MVPs earns that classification whether people here want to admit it or not. To say that he's not in that category because he hasn't yet won a SB is circular reasoning given that what we're trying to prove is what level of QB you need to win a SB in the first place.
So both teams have that level of QB. No Ravens fan would deny that about the Chiefs, but seemingly every Chiefs fan would deny that about the Ravens. From my view, if they're both in that elite/HOF category, then it's worth looking beyond that to the rest of the rosters. But we never get there because everything devolves to Mahomes > Lamar.
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That seems like a losing argument unless Lamar wins Super Bowls, right?
- Some teams need a Mahomes to prop up their otherwise okay team.
- Some teams (like the Ravens?) don't need elite QBs because they have a historically great team
- Oh, and Lamar is also in the category of elite, just like Mahomes
I mean, his most impressive playoff win is either the Texans last week or the Titans a few years ago... why are we saying OUR bar is Lamar winning the Super Bowl?
He hasn't even won anything with THIS "historically great team" yet, much less raised the bar of his previous teams well beyond what they would accomplish without him.
I get you guys love the regular season... more so than any fanbase who's stopped by, but HoF careers aren't built on the potential that homer fans see in their quartback, it's built on results.