This probably belongs in the "Spags is a God" thread, but I'm putting it here because around 30:30 they talk about Chenal, reiterate he's the strongest pound-for-pound guy, that Spags wants to use him more, and to DJ's point that they are getting creative about how they use him, including as a 3-tech.
There's lots of other interesting stuff about how the McDuffie blitz was a last second changed call etc etc, but i'm on a Chenal man-crush so putting it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owd8dtn-HVU&t=2781s