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Old 02-16-2025, 07:20 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk View Post
From my limited understanding, these void years allow cap/salary to be turned into cash/singing bonus. The signing bonus can be split over the years of the contract. What I don't understand is how you can write a contract for 5 years and have it void after 3 years. This leaves the cash on the books however the player is free to go elsewhere.

My research indicates that this was allowed during covid because of the reduction in the salary cap. The Saints were in deep trouble so they allowed this. When Brady went to the Bucs, they did something similar: pushed his signing bonus over a longer period. However because Brady retired, everything including the signing bonus was voided.

Seems like this is something that really shouldn't be allowed as it's being leveraged in a way that was not intended. Leave it up to the lawyers to find a way to take advantage of this.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but seems if you’re pushing money (possibly dead money) into future years. Why wouldn’t that be easier to manipulate on those years with the cap going up so much every season? Seems like if that’s what you’re doing it would come much closer to evening out in the future years because of the expanding cap.

Also saw this comment on another post that was related. And thought it was pretty interesting, comparing the Chiefs and Eagles success with GM philosophy and drafting.

Eagles have had a few incredible years of drafting and acquiring players via trade and FA. Devonta Smith in the first round in 2021. Dickerson in the 2nd. Drafted Jurgens in '22 in the 2nd. Traded for AJ Brown in 2022. Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith in 2023. Mitchel and DeJean in the first two rounds in 2024. They are not missing on high end draft picks.

Meanwhile in KC...in 2021 we drafted Bolton and Humphrey in the 2nd rounds. Big win on Humphrey. Bolton is above average but not a star. Biggest win is probably Trey Smith in the 6th. That value is INSANE. But the Chiefs have whiffed on a lot of OL the last 4 years.

2022 was an incredible year for Veach and Co. McDuffie / Karlaftis / Cook / Chenal / Watson / Pacheco. But whiffing on Pickens for Skyy Moore was brutal. Sure we won a SB but you have a guy who barely contributed to the team for 3 years taken in the 2nd round. You can't stack misses in the first 3 rounds and keep winning SBs.

2023 was a disaster. FAU another huge whiff. Rice looks like a top 15 WR but he got hurt early and is facing a huge suspension when he returns. Morris (2nd rounder) isn't playing. Conner is mediocre. None of the other players are anything. You can't have a draft and pick up ONE STARTER and expect to keep winning.

2024 is another mediocre draft. Worthy looks like a star, which is great. Your first round players should be contributing. But then another whiff in the 2nd round with a player who was benched for the SB. Wiley got hurt and Hicks looks promising. Everyone else is a nobody.

Chiefs need to draft better in the first 3 rounds. They also need to ACCUMULATE more draft picks. Trade away players. Trade down. You need more ammo in the draft. Veach's best draft came when he had 10 selections. The last two drafts we've only had 7 picks and we've missed on a lot of early rounders.

Since 2021, Chiefs have drafted 30 players. Their hit rate for quality starters is 46%, which is exactly the hit rate on 1st round QBs. To be a successful team you need to draft better than average. Veach did a great job assemling the junkyard Avengers (JuJu, DHop, Hunt) but he needs more pieces to move around the chessboard. I know it's crazy but I'd think about trading anyone not named Chris Jones or Pat Mahomes in order to do this. Now I know the Chiefs would NEVER but if you can get a 3rd or 4th for Kelce I'd do it.

That is the comment. It’s not mine but found it interesting comparing drafts by the GMs
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