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Old 02-18-2025, 09:04 AM   #206
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
Nah, Martin has his issues. But he was vulnerable and incognito preyed on it. It doesn’t sound like just simple name calling or run of the mill harassment. He reminds me of that frat guy from Dead Man on Campus who was a relentless tornado. He and the OL kept a log book bragging about how they were breaking him. That’s psychotic behavior. Martins suicide post seemed a little over the top, but his struggles with depression and alcoholism seem really and it hangs together that this type of situation would contribute to that.

He was definitely too soft and in many ways a bad personality fit for the nfl. But that doesn’t warrant bullying. Forget about casual locker room talk and boys will be boys… he did this everywhere he went, and that includes staff and his own coaches. So yeah.. it’s less about me feeling bad for Martin and more about recognizing that the bully is way worse. Just as a refresher, he’s a pretty in depth look at incognitos long history of psychotic behavior
https://nypost.com/2013/11/09/booze-...y-of-violence/
This tells a pretty interesting story.
It's football - you're not going to get a bunch of choir boys playing it.. Incognito was mean and that's what you need from offensive lineman protecting the most important position in football from those tough ass dlineman..

Jonathan was clearly too soft for the sport and should have done something else. End of story far as I am concerned. Hope he conquers his demons though.

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