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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell
To say that the issue is not with the lay people makes no logical sense. If the church is corrupt, than it's members must be imbiciles, or condone the behavior. This is why Catholics take it personally. We ain't happy about the failures of our leadership, but that is not what is being attacked. What is being attacked is the institution itself, as you just stated. We believe in the institution. If you attack something that someone believes in, they will rise to defend it. The intsitution. Not the actions....
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Perhaps I speak only for myself, but I personally have no issues with Catholic people, but I do have issues with many of the politically and morally corrupt church leaders and of the churches non-biblical found teachings.
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell
How the heck old do you think I am? Please don't lecture me on history...I'm not some bright eyed Catholic high school kid. I can't for the life of me figure out where you got that I am. BTW, the "evil Catholic" bit was tounge and cheek. Sorry 'bout that.......
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It should have been written "either you have not lived long enough or researched enough or expierenced enough" to make my point. Sorry
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell
Not at all. Nobody is justifying it. Name me one person who has said that these things are justifyable. You can't cuz people don't. People grasp at statistics about other denominations having the same if not more trouble with it because the attacks make it sound like the Catholic Church is the ONLY church out there that has these problems. But nobody is justifying it at all...
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Again perhaps the word "justify" doesnt make my point. Maybe the words "overlook", "excuse" or "distract" would do better. By you again stating that other churches have "the same if not more trouble" is wishful thinking and statisticaly unfounded.