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Originally Posted by KCWolfman
Then you misunderstood my post. Yes, obvioiusly the Church and those committed to leading the Church have committed atrocities. My point, if you look at metrolike's answer below is simple - He states he admits both are corrupt and he has nothing to do with religion because of their corruption - yet he continues to qualify and make excuses why he is still a citizen while his government is just as guilty.
People like gochiefs aren't worth discussing the topic and I stay away from speaking with them on it. Note his determined animosity and deliberate jibes at others core beliefs merely to get a rise out of them. Those are the kind of people it is not worth defending against. They hate with so much vigor, they have no reason in their thoughts.
However, I find many peoples' hypocrisy regarding their reasons for hating religion while they embrace their particular side of politics to be very interesting and I have always tried to understand why they tick.
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Sorry, KCW. It's just that my linguistic skills aren't as good as C-Mac's. He expressed my thoughts exactly. It's just that your argument could be attacked from so many sides, I didn't know where to start, what to say so I just started rambling/ranting.