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Originally Posted by Donger
Thankfully, however, they learned the lesson from the Phantom not having a gun in the early days of Vietnam, since dogfights were "a thing of the past."
The Raptor has a good, ole Vulcan cannon, just in case.
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Yep
ALWAYS better to be safe than sorry.
If all things were equal, without radar and missiles, just straight-up gunning by line of sight, the SU-35 would be one tough bird to take down. The Russian thrust-vectoring is superior in every way. Their vectoring is a full 360degree vector, whereas the F22 vectors on the Y axis only; and to a lesser angle.