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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins
When a reasonable poster (like bill parcells) points out the stunning similarities between this offense and the Jet offense of 01-05, doesn't that mean anything to you?
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There are no "stunning similarities" that you can't point to and come to any reasonable conclusions. Some years, Herm ran the ball more, some he passed more. The years he passed more, he was less successful. The years he ran more, he usually got a playoff berth and a win, which is more than the 30 PPG, league leading offense ever got us. You can bitch and moan about the lack of offensive production, and you'd be right. We need more production. But you absolutely cannot ignore the injury situation and all around cluster**** that the offensive line has been this year. It's just not rational.
If, at this point next year, after all reasonable attempts to fix the offensive line have been made, and they are an improved unit and we're sitting a .500 or below, then I'll jump on your bandwagon. But not until then. It just doesn't make any sense to come to any conclusions right now. Belichick sucked before he got to the Patriots (and no, I'm not saying Herm is going to be Belichick). Every team and coaching combination is different, and it's a mistake to compare them. You have to take each situation as it comes. What I see is an improved defense, and an inherited offense with aging, injury, a new OC and lack of skill at the WR position. All good things come to an end. I think it's just an unfortunate coincidence that Herm showed up when he did. He's taking a lot of heat right now, because people expected immediate results. 37 years of frustration is coming to a head, and it sucks for the guy caught in the middle. I know that in this day and age we perpetually live in a "What have you done for me lately" mood, but this is a bit ridiculous.
I just don't believe it's possible to come to any kind of reasonable conclusion about a coach after only one season. If you want to do so, that's fine, but don't try and peddle it off as some kind of set in concrete fact. Your opinion is just as valid as mine, but without sufficient data, they are both opinions without much factual data backing them up.