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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
I guess you are right. I'd hate to believe a subversive outfit like Center for Disease Control. They are just bunch of known radicals....
I dont have a problem debating with you but if you are just going to run off with this "I have all the facts" ans "everyone else is wrong" approch...then forget it. The fact is You may have the right to own such an animal...I have the right to not want the animal in my neighborhood.
I am not now or at any time ever been a "fear mongering clown"...your words. What I will submit is there is and has been a ton of work done that demonstrates the antisocial behavior of the breed. The article i linked you to goes directly to that issue of the breeds tendency to be violent. Now you may choose to frame that in whatever manner you like but dont call everyone who takes this issue differently than you a "fear mongering clown" or you really dont come across as having a valid point, just a strongly held opinion. I respect your right to your views, Id at least expect the same from you.
As to the move to ban many breeds, that is currently the favorite tactic of the pitbull proponants as a means to enlist the support of dog owners in general...and its clearly not working. Few Labradore owners are going torush out to help a pitbull owner who tries to link the two breeds as somehow equally docile. Its just not so.
To equate a bite by poodle to an attack by a pitbull is foolish and carrys no relative weight in this issue.
I will also state that you try somehow to align PETA with people who oppose your views. Well, that has little merit. PETA is a group that I would catagorize as fringe wackjobs...They have few stands that I can agree with. If they are involved in a pit bull ban its certainly not from a protection viewpoint so dont try to paint all people who view pitbulls as a menace with the PETA brush.
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I have already posted tons of information on the subject. If you don't want to look at it that's on you. Most people here at the
Planet have already seen it or had exposure to the breed which is why you are receiving no support right now. Your article was nothing but a lot of rhetoric. Pit bulls taking over the parks, give me a break. The aggression is animal related, NOT HUMAN. PETA and the HSUS have people everywhere. You can even tell when they have put together the proposed legislation as is the case here. In California when they proposed our BSL they straight up admitted alliance with the HSUS. Their goal is the elimination of the domestic ownership of all animals whether you believe it or not. Here is a quote for you:
“One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding...We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding.”
Wayne Pacelle, HSUS, former director of the Fund for Animals, Animal People, May 1993
As far as your labradore owners are concerned did you know labs bite more people in the bay area than any other breed? Truth about pits is they really don't bite people, that why they had to start refering to many different breeds as being pits so they could actually attain some numbers. The great majority of reported pit bull attacks are not even pits.
As far as dog owners not working with each other or pit owners not getting support from other breeds you are dead wrong on that too. Jackie Speier wrote our proposed legislation. I went from dog park to after dog park making people aware of what she was doing. I received overwhelming support from approximately 95% of the owners. People who were like you were shunned and corrected by the others. Yes they vote over party lines in a second as well. Jackie just lost the last election BTW. Proposed BSL is failing nationally as well. Very little is actually going through. Kansas and Missouri are by far the worst states now, even worse than Colorado.