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Originally Posted by Uncle_Ted
To equate what Imus said with rap lyrics is just so dumb on so many levels ...
Why is it so hard to understand that context is EVERYTHING when it comes to whether or not someone is "offended" by "racist" remarks? Language isn't purely objective. Why would it be? Curse words aren't. For example, the words "fuck you" are much more subjective than they are objectively offensive. There are times and places where such language is completely unacceptable (that's the objective component), but other times and places where it is not. If someone tells me to "go fuck myself" should I be angry and/or deeply offended? You can't answer that question without knowing the context. My reaction will depend entirely on the context of the encounter, my own tolerance for cuss words, and most importantly, who is saying it to me. In other words, what matters is the intent and meaning that I believe is being conveyed by the "offensive" language, not the words themselves.
Context matters.
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So in proper context, I could say what I want.
Two black friends great eachother "My n'igga (note: not n'igger) Charles, how you doing?"
Me (white) meeting a black friend "My n'igga (again, n'igga, not n'igger) Charles, how you doing?"
Bet I don't get the same responce.
This is the same context. But so not acceptable, and if you think it is, you are out of your mind.
Dave Chappelle can get up on stage and make fun of any and all races. Hell I went and saw Carlos Mencia, he made so much fun of white people it was crazy (funny too though).
Put Robin Williams on stage and have him make fun of black people the same manner and intention that Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock make fun of white people. Then watch a small riot happen.
Lets put an unknown black person on stage to tell racialy charged jokes. Then lets put an unknown white person on stage and tell those same racialy charged jokes. Now, who wants to bet that the white guy gets booed off stage and possible threatened if not assaulted.
Your same context argument is weak, and lacks any thought. Stop listening to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Imus was wrong, no doubt about it. And I'm not defending him in the slightest. But don't say that Rap music is completely differant.
SnooP Dogg's Comments (Down at the Bottom of the Link)
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"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him."
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So according to snoop, they can call women bitches and ho's because it comes from the heart and the soul?
If you can't see the double standard, then I don't know what to tell you man. And for the record, I grew up on N.W.A, EZE and Dr. Dre and Snoop after that.