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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER
Ummm actually you have to be the one to explain why using the slur at all is OK. Oh, and throwing some bullshit invented statistic out there for an argument is lame. You may need to provide a link to substantiate your idiotic ASSumption. Here is some logic for you (I know you have trouble with logic but I will try anyway): If a term is offensive, it is offensive. Not offensive just because whitey said it. Please stop trying to substantiate using racial slurs. Please stop being racist.
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I already answered your question, but I'll state it more simply for you and other members of the short-bus crowd: if black people are not offended when Chappelle uses the n-word, then who the hell are you to come in and tell him he can't use it? (I'm still assuming you are white.) Are you saying that if you can't say it, then he can't say it?
Calling me a racist is a ****ing joke. How you came to that conclusion from anything that I've written in this thread is mind-boggling. If anyone is a racist, it's whites who think that if it's OK for blacks to use the n-word, then it's ok for them to use it too. If that is where you are going with your little "theory" (and I'm still assuming you are not black), then my question would be why you want to use that word so badly in the first place? Why the hell do you care so much if others "get" to use it and you don't? It's none of your business.
As for the statistic, attacking that is a red herring ... I was using it for the sake of argument (and premised it as such). I was not asserting as fact that I had access to some poll saying that 50% of black people think Chappelle is ok and the other half think he's a racist. I was just using it to illustrate the fact that many (if not most) black people do not consider Chappelle to be a racial bigot despite his repeated use of the n-word.
And I love that fact how you haven't even attempted to answer my question: if your theory is correct (i.e., that language is objective and that context is irrelevant in determining whether a racial slur is "offensive"), then how do you explain that Chappelle isn't uniformly denounced by the black community as a racial bigot? Or do you think that blacks aren't really offended when a white person uses the n-word, but they just act like they are in order to further some ulterior motive?
I also like how you dismissed out of hand my hypothetical about calling people "assholes" just because it isn't couched in terms of race. Because it actually destroys your argument. It illustrates perfectly how the threatening and offensive character of words that are ordinarily considered "offensive" can be stripped of that meaning by groups of like-minded individuals (whether it be a racial minority, a homosexual minority, or just a group of friends).
Your little theory doesn't match up with or explain reality. I know this might be hard for you to understand, but the world's a complicated place. Blind adherence to some purely objective view of reality might sound all nice and neat, but "consistency" does not equal "truth".
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson.