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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
What the **** do I have to be satisfied about?
Gunther has been here 4 years and the defense has never, ever played the way he said it was going to in the preseason.
He got new toys to tinker with every year. He got the guys he wanted, and most of those guys (Surtain, Napoleon Harris, Ty Law, Kendrell Bell, Carlos Hall) have turned out to be horrible under his coaching.
Just because the rest of the team is shitty, doesn't give Gunther a free pass.
Hopefully we get some fans on here who have a ****ing clue instead of sticking up for ole' faithful Gun.
When the big turnaround happens that he keeps promising let me know.
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All the players you mentioned are the ones turning the corner with age. Ty Law was more of a fans demand that he take them. Law has been a horrible tackler, but he's had his moments like when he owned Peyton Manning in the playoffs.
Bell was questionable of how he would do in a 4-3 after thriving in Pittsburghs 3-4.
I'm just saying, do you think the teams problems really reside on defense?
I think if you throw this defense in with Vermeils offense it would be nasty, mostly because these guys would have a little time to rest.