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Old 03-19-2008, 03:01 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by suds79 View Post
I'd still be a fan and I wouldn't consider it awful.

1 - I like Herm's philosophy of playing young players, developing your own franchise QB, not wasting $$ on bigtime FAs, and he knows defense.... See our historically bad D prior to his arrival. It's getting better.

2 - Understand this.... No coach was going to come in here after the mess DV created and have a good squad. It was a ticking timebomb. No coach.

Now is he perfect? Far from it. I think he needs to hire a clock management coach. Is he a little more conservative than what I'd like? Yes. But that formula has proven to win. See last year in Tom Coughlin. Same guy. Same style of play.

Guy doesn't even get a chance to rebuild an old, bad team and everybody and their mom wants to run him off.
That pretty much sums up my feelings on herm.

I don't "support" him in the sense that I'm a herm-homer, but I think he deserves a valid chance to succeed or fail, and that chance should be based solely on what he does here. His record in New York (whether you're on the side of "4 playoff appearances in 6 years" or "mediocre coach who never bettered 10-6") is all but irrelevant to me.

I write off 2006 because I think he let himself be convinced that this was a good veteran team (which could be construed as a mark against him), and because of that, he didn't start the rebuild until last offseason. And make no mistake, I think the rebuild did start last year, I don't think it's starting now.

I think there are signs that Carl has either ceded a degree of control, or been asked to get out of his way, as well, so if he doesn't turn this ship by 2009, then it's nobody's fault but his own.

However, he clearly doesn't deserve an extension now. That would make even less sense after a 4-12 season than Carl's last extension following (IIRC) a 6-10 year. While I appreciate valuing loyalty, I think the goal of this endeavor is to win, and nothing says "mediocrity is okay" quite as well as extending a guy after a losing campaign.
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