[bowener]

Thanks, yeah we are... just stiff necks and backs. Everybody went running up to the car after it stopped sliding and I got out of my car and dialed 911 (all circuits are busy of course) and went to go check on the driver but then stopped after about 4 steps because I thought he was dead. I did not want to see that... so I double checked my girlfriend and just sat on the curb and waited for the sirens to get there. Ambulance was there in less than 2 minutes from the time I got out of the car too... Cops were less than a minute behind them.