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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
And you have an amazing habit of putting words in people's mouths to make your argument sound better.
I didn't say Turk was a good player. I said they did pretty good in picking him up. You act as if picking a late 2nd round draft pick gets you a surefire starter, nevermind that there are only two players out of the next 10 drafted have made any major impact on the teams they play for (Ryan Kalil and Sampson Satele). And neither has lit any fireworks so far.
The statement that Turk is a fringe roster player on other teams is a joke. No team would give up on a player like that in only his 2nd season (first major season of action) for one, and secondly, unlike you, most teams don't cut players just because they don't start. Ryan Denney of the Bills was offered a multi-million dollar contract to serve in a similar role that Turk SHOULD be playing--as a rotational lineman.
Turk McBride has 41 tackles in 9 games, which means that he would finish the season with probably about 75 if he stayed healthy. And you think he would be cut by most teams? Bullshit. McBride would be a huge asset to this team if he was a rotational player in the mold of a Jimmy Wilkerson or a Ryan Denney. He should be a run down DE and a nickel tackle. If you have a stud DE on one end and a rotation of Hali and Turk on the other end, our ends would not be in terrible shape.
I stand by my position that in the late 2nd round, we have seen PRETTY good value out of McBride. I don't agree at all that you can call him a bust just yet.
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If you aren't drafting to get a solid starter in the 2nd round you either have:
A) a deep team
B) a stupid GM
I can't believe anyone would say we've gotten any value out of McBride. 41 tackles? You don't say. I must have missed the memo where defensive end tackle stats mean shit. This defense can't get off the field, but leave it to you to praise the tackle stats of a completely non-existant defensive end.
Please take a poll on other websites and see what other fans say about 2nd round players. Do they expect to get a rotational player, or a guy they can plug into the lineup?
Turk McBride will bounce around more than the marbles in your head during his career. I'll even bet 5 years down the road that he's not even in the league.
He's an awful player who can't rush the passer, can't stop the run, and can only hit a QB about 50 seconds late.
You can shove your comparisons to Ryan Denney. If Ryan Denney is your benchmark, you keep lowering the NFL IQ bar.
Carlton Gray was given a multi-million dollar contract to do nothing. I guess we should start judging cornerbacks by his standard.