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I have a simple argument for the first point raised, that it wouldn't be fair given the state of the team when he got here.

He was hired knowing the circumstances. He was expected to take what we had, add some pieces to it, and succeed. It did not seem that, until we started losing, he claimed to want to go entirely youth, not just Vets in key spots with youth.

That isn't the point. The point is this is the NFL, you have to win now. If a coach cannot adapt their beliefs and styles to each team they go to, then they don't stand a chance. I am of the belief that the coach should come in and take what they have and make it work. Herm commented several times on the age of the team. He also realized it was a team built around the pass, not the bulldozing run game he wants to bore us to death with. He should have either immediately made this "his team" and started dumping old men for youth, or he should of picked up the phone and started making calls to get winners on the team to push it over the edge to victory. He did neither. He let the ship aimlessly wander the course until it shipwrecked itself in Indy, which wasn't "his" fault, that we can be sure of... oh god the futility. Do you remember the first ****ing half? Jesus, kill me!

The first year was a wash. He ran LJ into the ground, and did nothing to help this team. Had he tried to actually do something the first year and we were where we are now, last year, then I would have let him stay on for this season. But he does not get another season. He showed he is incapable of coaching at this level several times. I am not sure which is more sad, that Herm did not see the looming disaster, or that he did nothing to avoid it if he did see it.... all I know is we can do NO WORSE with a new coaching staff, what is there to lose? One or two more games? Herm might pull that off next year if he is allowed to stay.

Better to pull the trigger now than 4 games into the season next year when we are 0-4 and he is blaming Rocky Boiman, starting MLB, for the losses.