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Old 02-26-2009, 11:02 AM   #94
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It took them 5 years to put it together. It's taken us SIXTEEN (if you want to count the Joe Montana AFC Championship game). Good lord man!
1.) You, and many others here, are unfair in your evaluations of the Chiefs in the past 20 years. 3 times in less than 15 years, the team has been 13-3. I'm not saying that the team's been the cat's ass, but it hasn't been as bad as some of the people here make it out to be. Good lord, imagine being a Lions' fan.

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And I said "exactly" because you know deep down that the Ryan Sims debacle HAS EVERY BIT the impact on Chiefs fans as Ryan Leaf, if not more so. Ryan Sims was considered to be the "safest" DT in that draft - Haynesworth had character issues, Wendell Bryant was a pothead, and John Henderson had back problems. Ryan Sims is EXACTLY the kind of player that people are clamoring for when they say they want Curry - SAFE. Well, guess what? Even the "safe" picks aren't safe.
The reason "exactly" made no sense is because you tried to apply a specific example to a general principle, and that principle wasn't even applicable. A bust at QB is the most damaging position to bust at.

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The Chiefs didn't draft Ryan Leaf. Furthmore, Ryan Leaf isn't eligible for this draft. What happened in 1998 has pretty much zero bearing on the present, unless you're willing to admit that Mecca and Hamas are right and you're just scared of a Ryan Leaf-like scenario.
You seem to be operating under a misconception. I'm not surprised by it, given the kind of posts that Hamas has made. I have no fear of taking a quarterback high. Last year I was pimping Matt Ryan as if I was his agent. I just wasn't on this board.

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Like a little. We got Pioli! We got a young coach that was just in the Super Bowl. This is the best Chiefs offseason EVER! There's no better time than now to take a flyer on a QB. If he busts, so be it. I've been a fan for thirty years - it's time to take some risks.
Every pick is a risk in some way or another and, especially at the top of the draft, every pick needs to be made based upon the individual player as opposed to the position or the 'safe' tag put on him. Isn't that the lesson of Ryan Sims? As for having Pioli, you and Hamas and company are going to have to get used to the notion of team specific "value" as opposed to position or BPA. If Pioli thinkgs a kicker has more value than any other player on his draft board, you'll be getting a kicker.
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