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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By
Hey, just out of curiosity, since you're so brilliant, how much did Jason Taylor weigh when he was playing a 4-3 DE in Miami?
Moron.
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And you're the moron that thinks that Suggs could play OLB in a 4-3 in Detroit. Tell me how many 260+ pounders are playing OLB in a 4-3.
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Actually, when I referred to "Hybrid", I was referring to the hybridized way in which the Suggs grievance was resolved. He was paid as a DE/LB, which is the hybrid. Again, had you actually bothered to read the posts, you'd have known that.
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You keep referring to Suggs and Hawk as playing the same position, even though it couldn't be further from the truth. All 3-4 OLBs play the hybrid position. It is what they call a "tweener"--a DE that scouts thought was too small to play DE in a 4-3, but too big to play LB.
Terrell Suggs is a DE who was asked to play "tweener". As was Merriman, Ware, and every 3-4 OLB/DE "tweener" in the NFL (16 in total)
AJ Hawk is an OLB who was asked to play OLB
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I didn't say they were the same, other than both being linebackers. Seriously, reading comprehension would go a long way for you, I think.
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And again, you are suggesting that 4-3 LBs and 3-4 LBs are both "linebackers." They're not!
3-4 OLBs are asked to take on much more DE responsibility. Therefore, they carry much higher draft value than a LB. DEs are one of the most highly sought after prospects in any given draft. LBs are usually taken toward the middle of the first round. Consistently.
Now, the only reason 3-4 OLBs tend to drop lower in the draft is because only a handful of teams actually run a 3-4 defense (8 teams). So let's sum it up. Patrick Willis fell to #11 because no NFL team wanted to reach for a LB in the top 10. Terrell Suggs dropped to #6 because you have to run a 3-4 to get value from him.