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Old 04-16-2009, 03:50 PM   #274
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Originally Posted by kcbubb View Post
You are making a lot of assumptions in that process. The average NFL player's career is 3 years. And I know that we can reasonably believe that Albert will have a long career but thinking 4 years down the road about Albert's contract is a little bit ridiculous for the 2-14 Chiefs at this point. A lot of things can happen in 4 years. Albert's contract is currently a good value for a RT and Monroe would be a good value at LT with the #3 pick considering the other options that we have if we can't trade down.

Say Albert plays a good 4-years at RT and Monroe plays well at LT during that time as well. We would most likely have great o-line play during that 4 year period and the last time we had great o line play, we had the best offense in the league.

Another point is that if Albert doesn't want to resign for reasonable money, we can always franchise him and trade him for picks, the same way we did with Jared Allen. And if you ask me that's a great way to continue the success of your team because you don't end up having huge contracts tied up into one player and you can continue to build through the draft with the picks that you traded the franchise player for.

All the downside of Albert's contract being a problem 4-years down the road really aren't a problem at all when you consider the trade value that Albert will have and the compensation that we will receive.
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I think Al Groh, the guy who has coached them both for several years who is a good contact of Pioli's will tell Pioli who is better. If we do draft Monroe, I believe that Groh and Pioli have had enough conversations and watched enough tape to confirm that Monroe is an upgrade over Albert. I'm assuming you know that Pioli and Groh worked together for the Jets. These guys know more about Monroe and Albert than we do. Groh should know which one is better. He's coached them.

Many people have made the argument that you don't draft Albert due to value. I don't believe that because (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...20#post5675020).
I think the big question is this: is Monroe really a significant upgrade at LT over Albert? I don't think he is. I don't know that for sure, I haven't spoken to Al Groh, but the transition Albert made last season without the benefit of some TC and preseason was downright phenomenal. There's not a lot I think he can't do, given the time to work on it.

If it turns out Albert can be 100% the lt Monroe is, then it becomes a bad pick. You move Albert to the right side, 4 years later you franchse, trade him. Are you going to get the trade value of a probowl lt? Probably not, teams may not be sold after he spent the last 4 years on the right. If he was so good, why'd they draft Monroe? So then you spent the #3 on 4 years of great RT play and most likely a lower first round pick.

If Monroe is a significant upgrade at LT, the value could be there, but is still very questionable IMO. In the long term, you're taking a slight upgrade at LT, an upgrade at RT for a years, and probably a lower first-rounder in 4 years as opposed to taking Curry or someone else who could really help the defense.
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