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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
No where have I seen a legitmate football writer detail the Chiefs draft day and their effort to move back. If you can link us to that, please do.
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The story on the Detroit trade came from Teicher. I'm no fan of Teicher's, but for him to report those kind of specifics directly on draft day, I'm going to assume he heard it from someone pretty solid. And the source didn't necessarily have to be someone from the KC side. Maybe the Lions let Gunther into the draft room to take their lunch orders and he overheard it.
Peter King didn't report it, but he didn't refute it either. Unlike, say, the Cassel contract story.
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Pure conjecture.
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It's not conjecture. If the Chiefs were willing to move back that far, they were willing to part with Tyson Jackson. To be there at #20, Jackson would have had to slip past, off the top of my head, Green Bay, Denver twice, and San Diego. There was even talk in Cleveland that the Browns were willing to move down when #5 came up because they had their eye on Jackson and he was gone.
I can't state this for certain, but I've read elsewhere that Kiper's mock the day before the draft had Jackson going #5 and Curry going #3. And then the KC-Jackson talk started and he changed it. His last mock posted at ESPN indicates there might be updates, but it doesn't specifically say if anything was changed.
Regardless, I don't know where it came from that everyone had Jackson going 17-20. Most everything I remember had him going to Denver with their first pick of the two (#12, I think).
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
On draft day, Pioli and Haley said they got "their guy".
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Well, what are they supposed to say? "Ehhhh, he's OK, but we really wanted to move back"?
I'm sure they're fine having gotten Jackson, don't get me wrong. But there were numerous reports in the weeks before that draft that Pioli was trying to trade down. Actively working, calling teams, trying to make a deal. A specific draft-day report said they were willing to trade back to a point where Jackson surely would have been gone.
You can question the Teicher story about Detroit, but there's no reason to doubt the numerous stories that Pioli was trying to move down. And that itself doesn't jive with the tunnel-vision type mentality you're suggesting they used, where they just zeroed in on Jackson and didn't care how big a reach he was. If Pioli wanted Jackson that bad, he's not going to move down and risk someone leaping ahead of him.