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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By
But you keep conflating your arguments. There are only 2 franchise QBs in the NFL: Brady and Manning. Some people would argue that Roethlisberger belongs on the list, but that still only makes 3 total.
As far as putting teams on the back, I wouldn't put Manning among that group, and he's the second best QB in the NFL.
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have won Super Bowls. Surely you're not claiming that Cassel can't become another Dilfer/Johnson, right?
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Working backwards:
The odds aren't in his favor.
Second, I underestimated your ability to take past posts of mine and apply them to this conversation.
I would have worded my earlier statement better by saying that both Manning's, and Roethlisberger have PROVEN they deserve the franchise QB status. (I'm leaving Brady out of the conversation based on the fact that he was a needle in a haystack - let's talk about guys that were drafted or signed with the intention of being a franchise QB)
So, that leaves the following - guys that I consider franchise QB's based on their draft status, physical tools and intangibles - guys that were drafted with the expectation of being "the guy" for 10+ years and leading their team to a championship or more.
Rivers, Cutler, Ryan, Rodgers, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez.
They just haven't proven it yet, but have many years to do so. They are all still young.
NcNabb was drafted to be a franchise QB, but as we've seen, can't win the big game. That drops him out of the conversation in my book.
Other than that, Quinn was the only other guy drafted with the intention of getting a franchise QB, and the jury is still out - though I think he'll be solid, but not capable of putting a tema on his back and winning a SB.
I'm not sure how anyone can look at the Cassel situation and say he was just brought in to be "a guy". This was the guy they wanted, and they passed up others to do so - not to mention paid him what they would have paid a franchise QB in the draft.
The rest of the guys I listed can stay as already described - none of them were drafted or signed thinking they would be a franchise QB, IMO.