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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke
 Didn't they draft Ryan Leaf? Wasn't he a collosal failure? Why in the world would they draft another first round QB for there franchise hopes? How is he not a failure like Ryan Leaf? I'm a Chiefs fan and don't understand why teams draft QBs when theres failures like Ryan Leaf? Yet the team that had Ryan Leaf still drafted a QB? And your telling me Rivers is actually good? No ****ing way!
Thank God we havn't drafted a first round QB since that Todd Blackledge and we get proven / backupQBs to be our franchise hopes. I remember 1993 when we won a play off game/that wa s great!. True Chiefs fan. |
Just to keep the conversation going:
Here is my drunken half assed opinion on 1st round QBs.
There's a way higher ratio of Ryan Leafs to Payton Mannings in the 1st round.
Any QB needs the following:
- a great GM
- an excellent offensive game plan
- an adequate surrounding cast
- an adequate D
Comparing Joe Montana and Steve Young proves this point.
Montana won his championships with all of the required criteria.
Young won his championship with all of the required criteria, (although they cheated the cap).
Young couldn't do shit in TB where he had none of the required criteria. Montana couldn't do it for the Chiefs without a couple of pieces of the above criteria
The following list of "losers" who had nothing to work with:
1990 Andre Ware
1991 Dan McGwire
1991 Todd Marinovich
1992 David Klingler
1993 Rick Mirer
1994 Heath Shuler
1997 Jim Drunkenmiller
1998 Ryan ****
1999 Akili Smith
1999 Tim Couch
1999 Cade McNown
2002 David Carr
2002 Joey Harrington
2004 J.P. Losman
2005 Alex Smith
etc, etc, etc…
I know I'm missing a lot more "1st round busts", but if you put these guys on that champion 49er team Montana was with, (with same the great GM, offensive system, etc...), would they still win the SB? My guess is the majority would, (with the exception of Ryan ****, of course).
Cassel looked like a stud QB subbing for Brady in an environment with all of the needed criteria but he's in KC now and the criteria's not quite there.
He may not survive to see all the pieces put in place.