[burt]

Some of these replies are true gems!

I have been beat like this girl. NOT at 16 though. At a much younger age, my siblings and I would compare welts. 9-14ish, I got hit with what ever, including an occasional fist. And on several occasions, for something that I didn't do. I learned to aply those beatings to something that I did wrong and got away with. I also used the beatings to man up. I got to a point where I told my self, "This kid that is bullying you CAN'T hit as hard as your Dad"

In my 20's I decided that my father didn't know any better because he had poor role models. I love my dad dearly. He just didn't know better.

Now I will say that when my son was deliberately bad, I used to act like I was as mad as my dad was. CRAZY mad. And yes, I used a belt on him. 3 to 5 whacks. Not 25. If some of you had seen this, you MAY have attempted to beat me!

He is now 16 and I don't lay a hand or belt on him. Not for fear(he is 145lbs, I am 285) but because it wouldn't do any good. The time for physical punishment is long gone. Same for my 13 year old daughter. I think spanking them would be a little wierd, no matter how subdued I did it.