[DonkyPuncher]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I'm just saying:

Packers: With Aaron Rodgers, playoff team. Without, probably not.
Patriots - With Tom Brady, playoff team. Without, not.
Steelers - With Roethlisberger, playoff team. Without, not.
Colts - With Peyton Manning, playoff team. Without, not.
Atlanta - With Matt Ryan, playoff team. Without, not.
Saints - With Drew Brees, playoff team. Without, not.
Chargers - With Philip Rivers, playoff team. Without, not.
Lions - With Matt Stafford, playoff team. Without, not.

The Bengals maybe could be added to this list.

How much impact would a coaching change have on those teams? Pretty ****ng nominal.

The exceptions come with teams who have consistently great team defenses:
Bears
Eagles (not this year, however.)
Ravens

I agree I think coaching can only be blamed so far, these guys have been playing football their entire lives, how much more could they possibly need coached? They play in the nfl if they don't get it by now then they should go ahead and pursue their career as a gym teacher beings that most of them probably have pys ed degrees.