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Old 12-14-2011, 01:26 AM   #11
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Coaching him up to the point where he threw 10 TDs and 14 INT in 11 games.

Cassel is beyond "coaching up." He had some success because he was handing it to Jamaal and playing a weak schedule.

That's it.



That's not what he's judged on.

He may have developed some individuals but he sure couldn't win with them.
Haley did a fine job of polishing a turd in 2010. He made Cassel look like a NFL quarterback....that alone should tell you how good of a coach he is.

Its not his fault the player has severe limitations that make it nearly impossible for him to be coached up any further.

Come to think of it, a lot of this year makes more sense now.

Haley and Weis developed a gameplan for the year to limit how much Cassel had to do and let the rest of the team win games and brought Cassel along slowly...giving him more on his plate week after week.

This year, we all questioned "why are they putting the ball in Cassels hands so much"...well, thats the natural progression of developing a quarterback. Keep adding more and more until he has full command of the offense.

Haley was giving Cassel the opportunity to take his game to the next level and Cassel showed the world he was unable to do so.

Its not Haleys fault he was handcuffed to a incapable quarterback to lead a NFL team to playoff wins and a chance at a championship or 2.

Cassel put him in position to be able to take that step, Cassel just couldnt do it.
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Lets just say Weis had absolutely nothing to do with Cassel, hard for me to believe. I'm not saying he didn't "wash his hands of Cassel" but he didn't simply ignore Cassel's shortcomings when drawing up and offensive game plan. How does Cassel succeeding last year pimp up Haley? If anything it makes me question him more. Everyone wanted to believe Cassel was forced on him and that he had no choice but to start him. Sounds more like he believed in him, just like he believed in Palko.
No doubt it was Weis that developed the "one read, quick throws" passing game to hide the fact that Cassel can not go through progressions and simply lacks the gene that makes quarterbacks test the defenses ability to defend the deep halves.

Haley had no choice but to "believe in Cassel" as you state.

Pioli never got anyone in there that Haley could make a change to when things got so bad.

NOBODY.

Thats why I say that Haleys ONLY major mistake here was Palko...who was seemingly HIS GUY.

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Heres a sickening fact:

Pioli thought Cassel was his next Tom Brady and Haley thought Tyler Palko was his next Tony Romo.

I bet these guys are pretty damn good in practice, but when the real bullets start flying, they become clueless, drooling, mouth breathing reeruns.

I will always believe that Haley would have saved his job if he had just moved on to Stanzi after Palkos first game.
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