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Originally Posted by Micjones
There are people, a large number of them, who believe America represents colonialism and imperialism as much as it represents freedom. If that is even possible, I can understand why someone might abstain.
I certainly believe in ideas like freedom. I just don't know that American history has been a good indicator of America's interests in it. And, again, certainly there are American ideas I despise.
Trolling often translates as "holding an opinion that differs from my own". Certainly that's not what you're trying to get across is it?
We can talk about patriotism once we're open to also discussing the uncomfortable truths of America's past. Something America has often proven it has zero interest in.
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I'm tiring of this conversation, trolling = saying shit to elicit a response, a staple of posting styles on CP. I do it too sometimes, even in this thread going all mega patriot, to feed the flames. America was born on the ideas of gaining freedoms from the colonial era's past. Nothing has been perfect, but we've progressed to more and more freedoms.
The point of the conversation for this thread was about standing for the anthem and it relating to patriotism. Well the truth is this;
Ready for it?
Both the Texan players that didn't put their hand on their heart and Shockey speaking out for his beliefs are right, American and not worth fighting about. There is no law saying you have to stand for the anthem, there is no law saying you can't think it's the better idea to stand, there is no law outlawing either opinion.