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Originally Posted by dred
I've actually been toying with the idea of getting a tactical shotgun.
How much would you say you have in something like what you have, CrazyPhuD?
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So part of it depends upon what you want. The best deal as a combination of features and reliability pre insanity was the VEPR-12. I tend to go for original configurations the way it was designed or at least the closest I can get to it with 922 issues.
Right now for my Vepr-12 I have the following invested and I haven't even started installing/getting all the bits.
$999 for the base VEPR-12
$90 for a US copy of the Molot competition muzzle brake
$100 for the Molot metal competition magwell
$350 for an original VEPR-12 folding stock on order
$125 for russian railed gasblock(they mill off the rail on the gasblock because it's not 'sporting' for import)
$400 5 8 round Izhmash factory magwell mags(they may US SGM ones now for cheaper)
Right now the only thing that's installed is the muzzle break. so
$$$+ for receiver mods for folding stock(mostly just a couple holes need drilling, but I'll probably have an experienced builder do it).
+money for 922 compliance parts so I can put on the folding stock.
Really your only sunk cost is the $999 for the base gun. I go for original parts as much as 922 allows me to because I want it to be like it was designed. If you want to customize it to look how you want it can go much cheaper. I go more for original russian, that's still functional rather than just tactical. For instance many europeans convert the VEPR-12 to use a folding M4 style stock for 3-gun rather than the original VEPR one. I still need to find the ambi-safety but that's a hard part to find. Some of my parts run more because it's fairly difficult to get the originals.
This shows the stock and the gas block rail(but not the brake or the magwell).
My magwell saiga-12 ran more but that was before the VEPRs came in country it was ~1500 fully converted. It's parts to convert it back to the way it was supposed to be are about the same as the VEPR costs. The mags I have I originally bought for the saiga-12 magwell but I want to pick up 10 round Molot mags if they bring them to the states.
Here's a recent Vid from russia that show's one of Molot's factory 3-gun builds....but we'll never see it here because it's not a 'sporting' gun.....