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Part of the problem with discussion is the nature of our fixation on a few, isolated players/things. There are only so many things you can say about Geno, Joeckel, Alex Smith, et. al. After a while it just turns into an exchange in moronic irrelevancies or opportunities for one poster to snipe at another.
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"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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