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Originally Posted by Bambi
Starting with basketball I do agree that Louisville has a seat at the table with the big boys after finally breaking through with a title this year. Pitino is a guy that most of us end up rooting for but their recent recruiting classes do not compare to Kansas. I would rank them overall the second best program on this list with both Oklahoma State and Syracuse fighting for the 3rd place. Kansas State will continue to move forward as well.
Football isn't comparable. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State all have been in the BCS in the last three years with Texas back on the upward trend in both performance on the field and recruiting. Having $40 million more than any other team in college athletics doesn't hurt their chances.
Again Louisville is really the only relevant program from the movers side. (With the exception of TCU and WVU which we are including in the discussion). Texas A&M is interesting so we will see what happens with them but it's hard to take a program with a 15-19 bowl record all that seriously until we see some sustained success. No doubt they had a good year last year but they don't belong in the same category as the Big 12 football schools.
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Oklahoma State and Syracuse are not fighting for the number 2 spot. That's just silly.
As far as your "three Big 12 teams have made BCS bowls in the past 3 years" statement...they HAVE to. Conference champions get auto bids. If the movers were in a single conference, their conference champion would also have received an auto bid. That's a terrible argument.
The top rated team on either list coming into next year will be aTm. The next will be Louisville.