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Originally Posted by New World Order

Look, you can't be serious as to say it was a good trade for us to give up 2 second round picks for a game manager. Can you?

Why would you defend someone who isn't a franchise quarterback? Why not just admit he's average?

Well, in my defense, I thought it was insane the price tag that the Chiefs gave up to get alex smith. ONE second rounder, I would of been like, oh, okay, they over paid a little bit, but I guess you had to. But, a second, which just happened to be the second pick in the second round, and a conditional 3rd, that becomes a two if the chiefs win 8 games? So. essentially two seconds. Of course it was a good trade. The qbs on the Chiefs last year turned the ball over, 37 TIMES. that's not an exaggeration. 37. What is alex smiths one on the FIELD superiority to just about every other qb in the league? HE DOESNT TURN THE BALL OVER. Stats show that if you win the TURNOVER BATTLE, your chances of winning, increase to about 69%. That alone, is worth a second round pick. The other fact that makes this a good trade, is that the Chiefs, DIDNT EXTEND HIM. He has a very cap friendly contract, that if he sucks this year, and you cut him before the new league year starts, his cap hit, is nearly nothing, and you lose nothing but a 3rd rounder this next season. If he does well, but not well enough, you surrender the 2nd, draft a qb, sit him for a year behind alex smith, and chase Daniel, alex leaves the following season, with your qbotf ready to take over. Its a beautiful trade all the way around.......

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

What's more likely?

Alex Smith leads this team to the Super Bowl

OR

One of those two second-round picks turns into an above average 10-year starter?

Neither. Only two qbs per year, lead their teams to the super bowl, meaning that 30 qbs go home with their dicks in their hand. It would be more logical to say something like this. Is it more logical, that in the next two seasons, that one of those seconds, if it even ends up being a 2nd, and not a 3rd, becomes a pro bowler, or does alex smith lead the chiefs to the playoffs. That's much more realistic. With that scenario, I would take Alex Smith. Who in their right mind would take the other.

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

We just don't believe in the same things. So I can say you are dumb too. Both of us are not wrong or right until they play the game. If Geno Smith can win with the Jets in the next 2 to 3 years and make his team playoff winners then Well **** you. If not then **** me.

Geno Smith would have been fun to watch in red uniforms with Arrowhead stickers on the helmets. A HELL of a lot more fun than Alex Smith.

How do you know? How do you know it wouldn't of been a train wreck from the word go. If you didn't trade for Alex Smith, you would of still had Matt Cassel, who probably would of gotten hurt, and forced Geno Smith in to early, and his career would of been over before it got started.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

How the **** is that dumb, you asshat? It's the truth. Alex Smith isn't going to do a GODDAMN THING in terms of getting this franchise to a Super Bowl.
I swear, you live in a ****ing fantasy world where Alex Smith is a legit first-rounder and Reid is still a top coach in this league. It's ****ing embarrasing, Dane.

Please....STOP.

Ah, ah, ah......STOP.

Well, if you don't believe in your coach, then really, the players are irrelevant. At this level, it starts, and ends with coaching. But glad to know that a coach who has a proven track record, you know, of 5 straight nfccg;s and a super bowl appearance, and a proven track record of knowing how to build a franchise from the bottom to the top, has zero chance at success with your chiefs. That's OUTSTANDING LOGIC.

Originally Posted by mcaj22

thats because he was never given the green light with his arm playing under Martyball with Cam Cameron as his OC

and he still was able to throw for 3000 yards and 20+ touchdowns


same with Flacco, Cam Cameron gets fired and Joe Flacco carries that team with his arm in the playoffs


Alex Smith doesnt have an arm like Brees or Flacco never has and never will

There is a shit ton of fail in this post. The reason that Drew Brees struggled initially in San Diego, is because they had NO TALENT AROUND HIM other than LT at the start. They didn't have Gates at the beginning, they were the WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE, they had a defensive head coach......Much like what alex smith went through in San Francisco. I do laugh at the notion that you put drew brees arm in the category of Joe Flacco. That's hilarious as hell. Truth be told, Alex Smith, and Drew Brees have very comparable arms. What sets them apart is Drew Brees, is a top 3 qb in the league, at creating time in the pocket, using his slight mobility to manipulate said pocket. he is also the master of the check down, has zero problems with checking the ball down to Darren Sproles or Pierre Thomas, but can also pin point the ball anywhere. But, he does NOT have superior arm strength.......

Originally Posted by BossChief

Let me say this about the Alex Smith trade...

Players arent signed or traded for based on what they have done rather what they can do for you in the future. Andy Reid knows more about QBs than ANYONE ON THIS SITE and sees SOMETHING in Alex that he thinks he can work with.

Alexs 2011 season was ok and last year he was on pace for over 25 touchdown passes before the concussion...while not turning the ball over and completing 70% of his passes.

If Andy can keep Alex progressing at a similar rate as he has the last two seasons, we may have gotten a steal.

If he cant, we will be in position to draft his replacement in the next two drafts.

Best post in the thread. It sums it up. The chiefs are in the drivers seat if alex succeeds, or fails....

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

If they brought in Alex Smith as a stop gap QB I wouldn't be near as upset. They gave up a second round and could give up a second round in next years draft. That is not a stop gap quarterback. I don't give a shit what Andy Reid sees in Alex Smith, he couldn't keep Mike Vick from being turnover machine or healthy & on the field. The only great success Andy Reid has had was with Donovan McNabb.

I can get over this Alex Smith shit if we draft a QB with our first pick in next years draft. Reality is that we wont.

At this point, how is Alex Smith, anything but a stop gap? He is on a two year contract, at 8 mil a year, which if you haven't noticed, is less than HALF of what Flacco, Romo, Rodgers, Brees, Tom Brady, and Peyton mannings contract are. In fact, its about average, where someone of his skill level should be. They didn't extend him. And there is a reason that he didn't try to trade for Mike Vick, there is a reason he didn't pick up Kevin Kolb, or trade for Carson Palmer, or get Matt Flynn, or just suck it up, and draft a qb. There are reasons for that. The chiefs clearly showed that they are serious about building the team. They were very aggressive in free agency, they were very cerebral in their draft. Everyone thought they were taking Joeckell, they didn't, they took the player with the higher upside. They filled just about every hole on the team, including upgrading the qb situation, which under the circumstances, and year, was the best they could do. And no, if Alex Smith plays well, and the chiefs are in the playoffs, of course they wont draft a qb in the first round. Why would they? Im sure that would just suck for chiefs fans everywhere. A season that isn't all but finished by the end of November. Pity.